tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post5888067130706434296..comments2019-09-05T11:04:36.146-07:00Comments on I Hate My DVR: The New V: Mirroring the OriginalBigmouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-73400849478111422442009-11-16T22:25:25.876-08:002009-11-16T22:25:25.876-08:00I'm enjoying the discussion.
It's telling ...I'm enjoying the discussion.<br />It's telling imo how quickly it changed from the current V to the original V and then to other faves and remakes of them.<br /><br />Confirms my own reaction to V: nothing there to discuss. The characters are largely unforgettable, I don't really care who lives or dies.<br /><br />I can't help but contrast it with Flashforward. Not network tv's best by a long shot, but I truly care for many of the characters in that show. And it makes me think - especially about things like self-fulfilling prophecy. It's on my dvr schedule.<br /><br />V just doesn't lend itself to speculation of any sort. I deleted it from the dvr schedule. I'll hold my nose and watch a few more episodes before giving up.lostmiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06616449008180088968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-36757921982555193912009-11-16T13:28:05.164-08:002009-11-16T13:28:05.164-08:00The White House Reacts to V<a href="http://the-visitors.net/2009/11/15/the-white-house-reacts-to-v/" rel="nofollow">The White House Reacts to V</a>Greg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-67206449702137280362009-11-14T12:21:04.850-08:002009-11-14T12:21:04.850-08:00yeash, Capcom, it's interesting that TPTB say ...yeash, Capcom, it's interesting that TPTB say the smoke monster is their version of Rover (giant roving security balloon)<br /><br />i wonder if the Lost Sonar Fence could keep Rover out<br /><br />oh, i got it! The Prisoner takes place inside the Temple wherein nobody can escape until Jacob utters they're comingGreg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-27095074809931287722009-11-14T12:14:06.299-08:002009-11-14T12:14:06.299-08:00YES!!, Carnivale was VERY interesting
i'm als...YES!!, Carnivale was VERY interesting<br /><br />i'm also looking forward to Caprica<br /><br />guess i like FF more than V because it is a more unique premise as compared to yet another David Icke reptilian/alien takeover<br /><br />maybe Fiennes will get killed by April 29 so we don't have to watch his stilted one dimensional acting, i'm fine with the other actors acting<br /><br />here's a bit more on QED variations<br /><br /><a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QED" rel="nofollow">QED</a>Greg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-78382879262785665672009-11-14T10:26:59.248-08:002009-11-14T10:26:59.248-08:00Carnivale, a show I adored, was similar to the Pri...Carnivale, a show I adored, was similar to the Prisoner and Twin Peaks in that light, Cap. Strange as hell at times, seemingly for the sake of being strange. But hey, I dig all three of those shows immensely. <br /><br />I'll be watching Jesus in The Prisoner, hopefully it will give it's own spin. <br /><br />Looking forward to Caprica in January on the Sy Fynstein channel.Thunderstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07981234642029163995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-8101085453197173022009-11-13T16:07:32.960-08:002009-11-13T16:07:32.960-08:00But...I see they still use the giant security ball...But...I see they still use the giant security balloon, how great is that. <br /><br />X-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-69584273049251148002009-11-13T13:20:14.651-08:002009-11-13T13:20:14.651-08:00The original Prisoner dialogue often makes no sens...The original Prisoner dialogue often makes no sense at all. In the finale especially. It's often very surreal and avante-garde-ish in nature. I'm interesting in seeing how off-beat the new show is in comparison, but I'm sure that they won't take as many artistic risks as the original did.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-36394569874572784172009-11-13T12:23:26.010-08:002009-11-13T12:23:26.010-08:00IFC is running episodes of the original Prisoner i...IFC is running episodes of the original Prisoner in advance of the remake. I'll be really curious how they compare -- the original is so iconic and holds up really well. BTW, is the remake going to be a mini- or regular series?Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-37944506087766718702009-11-13T11:50:27.511-08:002009-11-13T11:50:27.511-08:00The Prisoner influenced other TV shows<a href="http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner/timeline" rel="nofollow">The Prisoner influenced other TV shows</a>Greg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-60917988673784077502009-11-13T09:44:35.893-08:002009-11-13T09:44:35.893-08:00PS: LOL at the Sy Feinstein channel! My friend ha...PS: LOL at the Sy Feinstein channel! My friend has nicknamed Lamar Odom and Khloe Kardashian "Lamardashian"...Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-9879260253636888392009-11-13T09:43:13.061-08:002009-11-13T09:43:13.061-08:00Regarding 9/11, haven't the writers of FlashFo...Regarding 9/11, haven't the writers of FlashForward and V specifically referenced that event as part of their inspiration? <br /><br />Science fiction seems to be a good lens to examine such tragedies that are still a little raw in our minds. For example, I've long maintained that War of the Worlds was the first great post-9/11 film. When people ask me what it felt like to be in NYC during the attacks, I often direct them to that film.Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-55170481760933589622009-11-13T08:14:04.264-08:002009-11-13T08:14:04.264-08:00Good post, I agree with everything. Except maybe t...Good post, I agree with everything. Except maybe the Elyse Keaton thing -- ever since Meridith Baxter(-Bernie) went feminazi-ballistic against all men after her divorce, she gives me the creeps. :-P<br /><br />While I don't care for it, I think that a 9/11 reference is unfortunately to be expected as many shows, including Lost according to some viewers, are making references to it ever since. I keep reading "the show is reflecting our fears and reactions to 9/11, the first time our lives in the US changed forever".....what, doesn't anyone remember Pearl Harbor anymore? I agree, it's almost redundant to work it into a show it at this point, IMHO. And according to some reactions to Fringe's side-handed reference, it still bothers the victims to see it in their entertainment at this point. <br /><br />I really disliked the warehouse scene as well. As it was happening, it felt very clunky and forced. Hamfisted was a good word to use, Thunderstorm.<br /><br />You have a good point Wayne about a "look to the sky" aspect. Beginning in the 1950s (or really as far back as Roswell in the 40s) we have been collectively looking to the skies expecting all sorts of oddball things. Not so much now though, so interpretation of that might be more open-ended in a story at this point, especially since many viewers are very young and as yet oblivious to what has happened before their time.<br /><br />Ditto your opinion on the Talking Hair reporter. It will be interesting if he comes to reveal any redeeming qualities as the show progresses.<br /><br />Great post and comments as always! Yes, this Sunday Greg! :-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-52695245674685547462009-11-12T12:10:21.308-08:002009-11-12T12:10:21.308-08:00Does anyone else feel like they're really ripp...Does anyone else feel like they're really ripping off BSG with the whole resurrection angle?Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-27447372199539029892009-11-11T12:26:15.949-08:002009-11-11T12:26:15.949-08:00i didn't see the V original (or at least don&#...i didn't see the V original (or at least don't remember watching it) so i thought they gave away too much the 1st ep & the 2nd ep was sorta ho hum, i'll be watching it the rest of this month but i might not come back in March<br /><br />like Capcom said, another remake, The Prisoner starts Sunday, i think it will be a much better show than V but i still enjoy FF so what do i knowGreg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-64563368628501086282009-11-11T12:17:32.938-08:002009-11-11T12:17:32.938-08:00guess i'm in the minority but i think FF is a ...guess i'm in the minority but i think FF is a better show than VGreg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-74157883638668211122009-11-10T15:09:26.471-08:002009-11-10T15:09:26.471-08:00INVADERS FROM MARS was a remake of a 50s film, the...INVADERS FROM MARS was a remake of a 50s film, the original being creepy for its atmosphere, which I think works much better than lizard-effects. SA had a reptilian-like alien, but the gist of the film was that these 50s kids were duplicated by the aliens and Diana Scarwid, living in Manhattan, is called back to Illinois, Paul LeMat follows her because they were dating, and Nancy Allen runs a Weekly World News kind of paper. <br /><br />I'm not trying to be harsh re: 9/11, but I had a doctor who was from Bosnia who talked matter-of-factly that quite a few other countries have specific dates as memories, and that he hoped people wouldn't stay freaked out over it. Hollywood propagates it by having scenes like this play out over NYC. Did anyone really think of 9/11 when the helicopter hit the building and skidded down the side in FLASHFORWARD? No, because it was LA. <br /><br />I'd like to see V succeed, though. The callowness of the TV reporter is a perfect example of how any news program today would be seen, compared with even the 80s, when the first V aired. If they could show more of this, our vanity at thinking we are superior, the remake might work. Not certain its gonna happen, though.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-42324478354433964202009-11-10T14:44:18.895-08:002009-11-10T14:44:18.895-08:00Wayne, I remember "Invaders from Mars" w...Wayne, I remember "Invaders from Mars" which was a movie from the 80's. Where Louise Fletcher (the nurse from Cuckoo's Nest) was seen eating a whole frog. There was even juice coming out of her mouth.<br /><br />It scarred me for life. <br /><br />Of course, I'd like to see it again, to see if I had a similar reaction to the lizard baby from 'V'. Maybe I'd laugh out loud.Thunderstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07981234642029163995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-74684163149800970312009-11-10T12:55:25.888-08:002009-11-10T12:55:25.888-08:00I've mentioned before that a time stamp would ...I've mentioned before that a time stamp would have helped, seeing as they did attempt it twice early in the show. Even with a time stamp showing days or weeks passing, there was still too much crammed into the episode. I do like that there are sleeper cells, and does it really matter that we already know they are lizards? Its like they are trying desperately to say, wait, don't cancel us yet. And that quasi-Michael J. Fox looking TV reporter is a complete dick, and I kept thinking of MARS ATTACKS (not because of Fox) during the interview.<br /><br />Big, I know you were there and yes, Chicago was in panic mode with me two blocks from the Sears Tower, but, and this goes to Thunderstorm, too, I'd like to see people not be so quick with the 9/11 comparisons. I mean with the 'look up in the sky' aspect. Again, no offense regarding the "where were you?" aspect, hell, I even wrote a story about it. But I wrote it in 2001 (italics) and the opening of V was really not much different than INDEPENDENCE DAY. I remember after CLOVERFIELD came out, some critics saying that it was a slap in the face to everyone who survived 9/11. Maybe its just because I'm older, when the first V aired, I had already written articles for my journalism class on the suicide bombings in Lebanon at the US Embassy and the Marine barracks, which was the first time anyone here thought terrorism was far-removed from the US. September of 1982 and over 300 servicemen killed in two attacks.<br /><br />Getting away from the terrorist thing but going back to sleep cells, has anyone ever seen STRANGE INVADERS? It came out in the early 80s and the tagline was something like "Aliens landed in the 50s. They're still here." Their beachhead was the middle of Illinois. Not a great film at all, just a neat little idea.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-52714113810288437092009-11-10T12:20:37.625-08:002009-11-10T12:20:37.625-08:00Thunderstorm: I think they pretty much had to dis...Thunderstorm: I think they pretty much had to dispense with any notion of keeping the lizard idea a secret too far into the show, unless they were planning to change the 'big secret'. Everyone knows they're lizards.<br /><br />Also, Bigmouth, I agree with most of your post, although I can't bring myself to call it "SyFy". It's too ridiculous. It's like a guy named Sy Feinstein trying to give himself a Hollywood nickname like J-Lo.3Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-60182231774871186042009-11-10T11:36:11.339-08:002009-11-10T11:36:11.339-08:00'Ann Frank' should be 'Anne Frank'...'Ann Frank' should be 'Anne Frank'.<br /><br />See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4673564878110539219.post-12011830853836543532009-11-10T11:05:58.012-08:002009-11-10T11:05:58.012-08:00I agree with nearly every word, even the remark ab...I agree with nearly every word, even the remark about Elyse Keaton from Family Ties. :)<br /><br />I was also put a little off with the opening, with the overlay "where were you on 9/11?" (to that effect). <br /><br />Look, I am a big South Park fan, I am not highly sensitive to being offended by such things, it just seemed...more than ridiculous in contrast. This is a show about Lizard people for God's sake. <br /><br />The warehouse scene you summed up quite well. I would agree. Seemed quite forced (rushed) and thus, hamfisted exposition followed by an 'all-too' cliched (read: bad) action sequence. <br /><br />I also think the look of the Lizard folk is already laugh-inducing. What little we've seen of it. I watched the original (both series) when I was 8 and 9 (born in '75) and I saw the same scene on SyFy last week, the birth of the Lizars baby. <br /><br />My recollection was that it was creepy (hey, I was a kid). But seeing it at 34 y.o., I laughed out loud. The freaky tongue wasn't so bad but the plastic green lizard with it's Halloween mask teeth and face, made me howl. <br /><br />You'd think that the Lizards in this remake would look damn cool. Or...as would be my preference, hidden for as long as possible. <br /><br />I didn't watch all of the rebroadcast on SyFy, but my recollection was that the Lizard aspect was held onto for quite some time. Of course back then, I'm sure an hour was a long time to me. <br /><br />This pilot, as well with FF, I think share some problems in terms of cramming (forcing) lots of stuff in. Setting the table too early. Feels like they don't trust their audience and reminds me why I mostly quit watching TV when I was in my early 20's. Especially network TV. <br /><br />But I suppose the recent run of a few really good sci fi shows has opened my mind to exploring all the rest of these shows. Flash Forward, Fringe, I am almost forcing myself to try and like. It shouldn't have to be this hard. <br /><br />Like I said, I agreed with pretty much everything you said BM, from not wanting another 'FBI lead' right down to that exchange between Scott Wolf and Anna McHotLizard.Thunderstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07981234642029163995noreply@blogger.com